January 8, 2009
Where do MLMers get off suggesting MLM is like owning a McDonald’s Franchise?
First and foremost, McD franchises have a history of having enough sales volume to cover the costs of all its employee salaries. Has any MLM ever produced enough volume to even begin to pay decent average commissions to all its reps?
For those in MLM who cannot grasp math, the point I am making is:
If a McD’s has 30 Employees, and those employee salaries total $2 million annually, and assume another $6 million in annual expenses, you can bet that those McD’s sales exceed $8 million.
You can take the gross sales of any MLM and divide it by the number of reps and it always comes to a ridiculously low number (thinking back about Amway’s proud $5 billion in sales and $4 million reps…yes MLMers, that equals $1250 sales/year/rep…that’s not even commissions).
Of course, every MLMer tells you their company is not like that. These same fools of course cannot provide evidence of gross sales/reps of their company, they just believe their upline. Unreal.
Prove me wrong!
MLMers, when I say prove me wrong, show me evidence of your companies’ gross revenues and total number of reps.
None of you will of course, because it will show despicably low numbers, like gross sales averages of a few hundred bucks per rep at best. And of course you will cover that up with all sorts of semantics, one liners, propagna…everythign you can think of to avoid doing the actual math than any normal business assessment requires. Brilliant!
BradH, how does the fact that you are selling a little bit in MLM have any bearing on this question? I have heard this comparison to McDonald’s countless times and merely pointed out how ridiculous it is. For you to assume anything about me other than this is mere ignorance. If you are not comparing YOUR company to McDonald’s than why did you even answer? You can call me negative to make yourself feel better, but that won’t change the fact that the point I made in my question is true.
The fact that you had to jump in so quickly, draw assumptions about me, give me a thumbs down, and profess you are making money (having nothing to do with the question) says more about you than me. good luck.
Mexico4me…you come and post all this nonsense and yet cannot even post a single number about your company. How predictable.
As for you thinking anyone who dislikes MLM is me, also laughable. You are in minority because most people are intelligent enough to see MLM for what it is. If you can’t handle that, stop talking me and posting in every Q&A I am in. In other words, get over it.
You can go on and on defending your sad little MLM but you only continually make my point by never addressing the math. You can go on telling everyone how rich you are and coming off sounding like a used car salesman but it won’t change the fact that you and your industry do not get any respect. I merely point out the facts and let things fall where they may.
Again, thanks for proving my point.
Sunny, another MLMer yet again proving my point.
HELLO…Is there a single MLMer who actually knows how much gross revenue their company does in sales AND how many reps that is divided across?
I realize most don’t want to know that number because to know that would be to know the truth that nearly everyone in MLM is making a pittance, but please, don’t come in here embarrassing yourselves without even attempting to answer the question.
Let me again point out the obvious…MLM is the ONLY business where people are naive enough to accept what is said in terms of numbers as oppose to verifying it.
Unbelievable!
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I am in AMWAY and its WAY bigger than Mcdonalds!!! 5 billion dollars, do you even know how much money that is? Problalby not. We also have way more than 4 million reps worldwide, its more like 10 million you idiot.
I am making money in mlm more than anyone i know. Last month i cleared almost 2 grand and you can kiss my ass! I live in a nice apartment that you could never afford.
MLM is exactly the same as buying a franchise, only its better becuase I dont have to pay any employees you twit! Also, the bigger my downline gets, the less I ever will have to do and will reitre and problalby be making $1500 a month for the rest of my life. You cant come close to that buying a Mcdonalds.
Man, only dumb people don’t get into mlm these days. MLM accounts for like 60% of all worldwide sales, and thse 40% who are not in it are the morons of the world.
if you want to join my company, email me.
Idiot.
Okay, this is interesting now. Not sure what game you’re playing here because you’ve tossed in a curve ball. Marcello and SmartGuy7 are indeed the same person. That would explain Marcello’s points, he answers his own questions and votes his own answers as best answer.
SmartGuy, and I use the term loosely, has always been 100% Anti MLM. Now all of a sudden you claim you have an Amway business. That is most laughable!!
I am trying to understand this obsession with MLM.
You hate it. So get on with your life.
If you really want answers about exact sales, I suggest you contact each MLM company and ask them for their records. We in the field don’t keep track of the company’s actual business statistics, because we are busy building our own. I can give you a partial list to get you started, you can call these companies and ask them what the total sales were as well as what the exact incomes are of everyone in the field. I’m sure they’d be happy to oblige you….lol.
Do you realize you sound just like Michael Richards? He thought nothing of screaming and yelling with racial remarks to those who did not agree with his opinion.
You are exactly the same. You are prejudiced against a group of people who choose to earn a living in a different way than you do, and you don’t hesitate to call us stupid, morons, naive fools, etc.
The list goes on of all the derogatory things you have called me and my associates.
Maybe you didn’t notice, because you were probably planted in front of your computer spewing your garbage, but people really reacted to how he treated people. Well guess what, people also react to how you treat people.
I have received emails from people in Yahoo saying that they could not believe how you talk to people in here. It’s offensive to people who are not involved in MLM in any way.
Maybe you should really read your past answers and have a look at the overall picture. That way you will see how hateful, angry and silly you look to others.
People come here to relax and interact and don’t want to read your immature rants that are twisted no matter what people answer into your own hateful, misinformed assumptions. No matter what they say, you tell them they are not only wrong, but they are stupid morons, just because they don’t have the same opinion as yours.
For the record, I blow away your made-up numbers both in sales and income. So what you have to say is just wrong. Period.
You’ve even gone so far as to slander my product in here. You have made false claims about what is in it, and obviously think you know more than the Cardiologists, Oncologists and Endocrinologists who have completely endorsed this product.
As for your math, it’s also twisted into your way of thinking and really quite laughable to those of us who are doing very well and helping our people do well too.
So I ask you once again to give it up….grow up and find a different hobby. Go kick some old people or families out of the homes you buy for profit and leave us alone.
First of all, Compering MLM with McDonald is a idea of discribing franchiseing concept, or according to some it is duplication. Now understand, Franchiseing was hated by most American about 45 years ago. there is even a move in US congress to outlaw Franchiseing altogather. Visit “Peoples Franchise” written by MLM industry expart John M Fogg for more information. McDonald is the company espacally Ray Crock who was able to use the concept in a respectable manner.
Now come to MLM. Yes i agree MLM may not have a very good reputation in US. now i surely can state that most people who hate MLM are the people who get a bad feeling from their upline or company. Well you can not depand on other people to make dicision for you. if you upline say you to do something and your idea is different then TALK IT OUT.
The more education you have about MLM, less control your upline have on you. And you can build the business the best way for you.
I know you might gonna say this is a business of Duplication. yes thats true. now understand what you need to duplicate. not necessarly the process of your upline it the the RESULT you want from your business. RESULT is what you duplicate. not the process. for example if you do not like talking over phone and your upline told you thats the only way you can do it, well your upline is wrong. your strong point should be on your business.
NOW i know your question about Mc Donald. All i can say that is a comperation of the concept. McDonald has multi-billion dollar ad campain, most of MLM companies do not have it. as a result more people know about McDonald and go there, since MLM is a word of mouth business as well as (abused) so most people do not want to go in MLM. MLM companies can go bigger if they like to spend billions of doller in media. and oveously Media will say good things about MLM too because thy got money. Thanks
While I am certainly no proponent of MLM and will say that the point you are making is correct, do you think its possible you spend a little too much time criticizing? Every now and then when someone is asking questions and possibly considering MLM, I totally understand pointing out all the things that are wrong with it in order to hopefully prevent one more person from getting involved and wasting their time and efforts, but with all the questions you seem to post on MLM it seems as though you are trying to antagonize. Maybe you are, maybe you are not, but if you are, you are merely stooping to the level of those in MLM who come in here and call you names and such.
Just my 2 cents.